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Todd Shuman's avatar

I appreciate this discourse ... thanks!

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Evan Frost's avatar

My comment that you included in this post was in response to your stated suggestion that the greatest risk to human communities is from fires that start on federal lands. Looking at a small handful of 6 fires that you listed does not provide evidence one way or another what the trend or magnitude of cross-boundary risk actually is in the southern Sierra. One would need to analyze a large sample of fire starts across many years and all ownerships, and analyze which fires have contributed the most to structure loss. The study that I referenced presents such as analysis across the western states, and found that most fires that burn down structures start on private and not federal land. Of course, regional differences in terms of pvt/public lands fire behavior may exist, but smaller scale analyses that demonstrates this are to my knowledge not available.

What we can say is that the risk of fires moving from federal to private land (and vice versa) is often site-specific and varies widely depending on local terrain, vegetation types, location/size of WUI, etc. Irrespective of these issues, the scientific and real-world evidence is very clear that the most effective way to mitigate fire risk to communities (if this is our goal) is by reducing fuels *immediately around* communities, rather than in much more remote 'wildland' areas. For example refer to USFS researcher Jack Cohen's large volume of work, and there are many studies that support his findings, such as https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-5776626/v1

The risk of wildfire to sequoias is another issue altogether, and not directly related to issues about structure and community loss. Since the groves are all on federal land, they are likely more at risk from fires that start on nearby (usually federal) land, so fire/fuels management to help safeguard the groves should necessarily take place in and adjacent to these forests.

Lastly, your apparent lack of interest in recognizing climate change as a primary factor contributing to increased fire risk for communiities and sequoias (at least that was my impression from your piece) is a common problem -- most people want to point to one or maybe two things for why the fire situation has changed so dramatically in California, but refuse to recognize other factors that are equally if not more involved. Of course the answer is that *numerous, interacting factors* are together responsible for the wildfire crisis -- it's not just increasing wildland fuels, or WUI development, or more human-caused ignitions, or climate change, or lack of 'good fire' -- but all of them together. To ignore this reality is to oversimplify the situation and can easily lead to action steps that are unlikely to be successful and may not even address the primary factors involved. Hopefully we can all agree that this is a complex, multi-faceted problem that must be addressed simultaneously in a number of different ways and at different scales, if we are ever to make any significant progress.

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